#1 June 28, 2013 11:55:00

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Hi all, I have searched the forum and only found one reference to this make of monitor but that was nearly a year back and it did not support PV generation.


I have been looking out for a web enabled monitor with LED reader rather than a cable clamp and took the plunge with this new model.  My first impressions are very favourable.  To me it's reasonably priced (Amazon £149.95) compared to some.  Does anyone else have any experience of it?


David





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I can't reply unfortunately but would be interested to know exactly how you define “web enabled”.  The reason being that I am trying to find a monitor that will auto-upload my data more regularly than I would do manually, and the “eco-eye” monitor that came with my system has had too many bugs to inspire confidence.  On the other hand the eco-eye is reported to be more accurate than other clamped systems in periods of low light level i.e. winter.  I am wondering whether to bounce your info off my installer!





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#3 Aug. 3, 2013 09:08:00

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After a month using this monitor I can confirm it does everything I have been looking for.  By “web enabled” I mean that I can access both historic and realtime PV generation data on my Energynote web dashboard which is hosted by Geo the manufacturer.  By realtime I mean within the last few seconds and all this can be seen on both PC and mobile (iPhone in my case - not an app but a mobile friendly size for Safari or Chrome browser).  I use it to monitor the PV on my son's  house because I cannot get regular access to the generation meter. However, since taking the start reading when I installed the Solo II back in June and then incrementing the daily generation, which is recorded to 2 decimal points, it is absolutely in step now we are in August. 


I have been so impressed with the Solo II for my son's PV that I have since got the Geo Chorus for my own home PV.  For the last 3 weeks it has sat beside my SMA Sunny Beam display which connects by Bluetooth to the invertor in my loft.  Again, because of the high accuracy of the Geo devices (which monitors the flashing LED on the generation meter) I now realise that my PV is actually still generating, albeit at a very low rate e.g. 10w, when the Sunny Beam shows 0w.  This has explained why over the 2 years my generation meter seems to have crept nearly 100kWh above the total generation shown on the Sunny Beam.  The Chorus, which records daily generation to 3 decimal places is also spot on with the generation meter.  I would be happy to share a few screen shots of the Energynote dashboards to better explain things.  I hope all that helps, just let me know.  David 





PS have a look at URN 130 in the gallery where I have uploaded 2 screenshots of Energynote … these are from my son's PV URN 825.





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Hi David.  Interesting indeed.  I get the impression that with all the bells and whistles that are bundled with your Geo, it does rather more than what would go to satisfy my humble demands!


It seems that there are two “bridges” to cross:


1. transfer of data from generation meter in someone's inaccessible loft to living quarters, PC or otherwise.  This is not a problem for me but could be a major consideration for others.


2. Transfer of data from home to online database.  Uploading manually once a month to microgen is not much of a problem, but if it was a matter of doing this daily (let alone hourly!) then only some auto-upload system would be practical.


I think (?) that a Solar Edge inverter gives you the latter facility but if you are not running one of these you are dependent on the monitor.  My experience of the eco-eye monitor is that it ticks the boxes in theory but falls down in practice.  Others - CurrentCost and The Owl have been mentioned to me - claim to do this but at the expense of inaccuracy in winter.  And I am not sure if for any of these to work the PC has to be switched on 24/7, which would not be feasible here.  


I would like to send my installer - who is as keen as I am to crack this - in the direction of your Solo II or Chorus (difference?), but preferably only if you can confirm that Geo's can do the basics above in addition to the more advanced features which make it so useful to yourself (and no doubt for other readers).


Appreciate hearing further details!


Iain





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Hi Iain, both the Geo devices come with an internet bridge.  The device, be it Solo II or Chorus communicates wirelessly with the bridge which plugs into your internet router or home network via ethernet.  There is no requirement for the PC to be left on.  I do not think you can load retrospective data into the Energynote website but it does allow you to put how much your system has generated to date in £ and it then counts from there.  The Solo II is for generation only while the Chorus monitors both generation and comsumption.  My only problem is that I did not realise the consumption part doesn't work with my old wheel meter, only a new smart meter with LED.  When my supplier comes along and changes it in due course it will work fine I guess.





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Hi David - sounds too good to be true!  I'll point my installer in the direction of Amazon though in their conscientious way they will probably want to research the technology first.  When I have a min I will google the Geo website where I suppose most of the technical stuff will be accessible.  Tks.





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#7 Aug. 3, 2013 15:17:00

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Looked at the Geo Solo II and Chorus PV this morning. Both look good, but beware, there are two versions of the chorus, one that is compaible with “Smart” meters and another for “conventional” meters but with an LED indicator. Conventional in this sense means a straightfoward digital or electromechanical meter.





Below is a link to another alternative you may wish to consider:





http://www.efergy.com/media/download/datasheets/ennova_uk_datasheet_web2013.pdf





Regards,





Avalanche











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#8 Aug. 3, 2013 22:56:00

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Thanks I have tracked down Geo under store.greenenergyoptions.co.uk and will forward this plus comments to my installer.  He can work out what the appropriate model is.  From a quick glance the Geo would seem to come nearer to my upload spec than the Ennovia (which doesn't seem to be that different from the eco-eye but that might be a premature judgement).  The blurb didn't seem to say much about uploading and there was no ref to a bridge.


Will see.





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Hi David. Looks like Jamie co at HQ are investigating auto-uploads.  Does / can your Geo communicate automatically via “Xively”??  I think my eco-eye tried to do so but we didn't get very far.





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#10 Aug. 20, 2013 10:03:00

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I have been trying to suggest to my installer that he swaps my eco-eye for the Geo but apparently they used these in the past and were unhappy about the accuracy in low light conditions. They had similar concerns about the alternative “CurrentCost” (?) system but are now inclining towards the latter whilst their investigations continue.





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