#1 Nov. 3, 2015 07:03:31

rogerhoward
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Claim VAT back on your PV installation

Yes Kevin. My standing charge is an admittedly high 22.42p/day = £81.83, less a £25 ‘loyalty bonus’ making £56.83/year. But is that enough to be worth claiming back the 5% VAT = £2.84/year?

It's not top of my personal ‘must do’ list, but I'd still be interested to hear of anyone doing it.



Economy 10 tariff provides 6.9p/kWh off-peak import between 12am-5am, 1pm-4pm and 8pm-10pm; http://www.pvoutput.org/aggregate.jsp?id=21047&sid=18934&v=2&t=m on approx. 63% off-peak usage, 22% solar usage, and 15% peak-rate usage.
1,900kWh annually is exported, mostly in summer, on approx. 3,200kWh generation. Approx. 4,500kWh/year is imported, mostly for (a) winter and springtime off-peak Storage Heaters, and (b) off-peak hot water Immersion heating (which is “dumb”, i.e. not linked to the solar PV).
PV array is split East-West. Income is from Phase II 21p/kWh Feed-in-Tariff plus smart metered 3.2p/kWh Export Tariff.

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#2 Nov. 3, 2015 09:46:32

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Can you tell me what the standing charge is for? does this relate to your export/FIT contract or the import side?.
Although as you say I doubt its worth the hassle for the sums imvolved.
My understanding is you can claim the vat back for new builds but not home improvements so I guess the success of any VAT refund claim depends on what else you were doing at the time.
All the succesful refunds I know about were associated with new builds or returning disused properties to human habitation - there was scheme funded by the goverment up here to help this kind of project.

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#3 Nov. 4, 2015 11:08:30

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Import. I believe that our import ‘leccy suppliers are obliged to charge us this (is it as part of the National Grid’s so-called “levelisation” process?).

Except that many of us Microgeners with large systems (especially south-facing ones), and even including myself with an East-West facing one, are very probably exporting more than we're importing I believe!

So yes, the principle is inherently flawed in making the likes of little us, or indeed new-builds, pay for our own grid connection. And yes, for everyone including new-builds, the question remains; is it really worth it to claim back the 5% VAT on the standing charge, especially when we're all still subject to the charge itself regardless?



Economy 10 tariff provides 6.9p/kWh off-peak import between 12am-5am, 1pm-4pm and 8pm-10pm; http://www.pvoutput.org/aggregate.jsp?id=21047&sid=18934&v=2&t=m on approx. 63% off-peak usage, 22% solar usage, and 15% peak-rate usage.
1,900kWh annually is exported, mostly in summer, on approx. 3,200kWh generation. Approx. 4,500kWh/year is imported, mostly for (a) winter and springtime off-peak Storage Heaters, and (b) off-peak hot water Immersion heating (which is “dumb”, i.e. not linked to the solar PV).
PV array is split East-West. Income is from Phase II 21p/kWh Feed-in-Tariff plus smart metered 3.2p/kWh Export Tariff.

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#4 Nov. 4, 2015 17:38:08

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I have to agree the effort in claiming back the 5% does get close to the pain rather than gain side of the equation. Although I believe it is not possible to claim the the VAT back on the import standing charge - however that is getting towards the limit of my VAT rules knowledge at this point I normally pass it over to the accountant.

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#5 Nov. 28, 2015 15:26:21

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Can we really still claim back VAT paid in buying our pv system?
I paid £8704.50 including £414.50 (5%) VAT for my 4KW ground mount PV system.
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#6 Nov. 28, 2015 18:39:36

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The answer to your question is covered by this article http://www.fsp-law.com/articles/vat-shock-for-home-owners-with-solar-panels basically for homeowners you would need to be voluntary VAT registered. (I was and the self build was covered by different rules https://www.gov.uk/vat-building-new-home).

HMRC (in the UK) guidance is here https://www.gov.uk/tax-on-shopping/energy-saving-products.

So I guess for most people is no


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